Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Do you think replacing oil would have solved US middle east problems instead of war?

Point is, once they make no money from the oil their economies would collapse.





Investing a few hundred Billion in hydro cells which are already developed would eliminate any need for oil.Do you think replacing oil would have solved US middle east problems instead of war?
First of all even without oil hate is hate and if we don't buy oil from them then they'll say we are ruining their economy so no matter what we do they will want to kill us because we are western...So terrorist feed and breed hate for the purpose of hate and power nothing more....We are not in Iraq because of oil, ask an Iraqi american why we are there.... They will enlighten you to the realities of an extremist regime..Do you think replacing oil would have solved US middle east problems instead of war?
hydro cells won't be as good because they want to get the hydrogen from the oil wells. Ethanol is the way to go.
they could of replaced oil or at least reduced our need for it long ago, big oil interests have no interest in losing the power and control they have over vast economies, they are getting too wealthy for their own good to allow that.





I was watching videos of one technology that would of eliminated the need for gas in cars and trucks and no need to us electricity from power plants, it creates it's own and is perpetural., but it has been stalled in teh government for 25 years. they won't let the guy get a patent despite all his jumping through their hoops. they won't let him market it, my question is why if the government is always calling us oil junkies?





there have been other technologies too, as long as special interests control government beneficial technologies (that actually are for people's benefit first and not profit) will be stalled every time.





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This is a very interesting link. What is shows is exactly what you are describing.


http://www.sandia.gov/news/resources/rel鈥?/a>





What this means is we are using the best and the brightest in the USA to come up with alternative fuels. Specifically hydrocarbons. Imagine having algae and bacteria make oil for us. Its not science fiction. The research they are doing is easily expandable to cars etc. What this says to me is the US government is actually working to get a viable self sufficient strategic oil reserve program that doesnt include the middle east.


Then we wont fund terrorism by supporting Saudi Arabia and the rest of them. All our money and infrastructure would be here in the USA.
Yes I do. But we will be in worse shape once China decides they want to control the oil. They used to ride bicycles, they don't anymore. We need to get off oil now.
No one wants to do hard work bro. I wish people were as smart as you





EDIT- See, I was right. The thumbs down proves that people can be really lazy, isnt it?
Replacing oil would not only remove our private parts from the middle east grip, but it would be the right thing to do for our collective environment and the future of our children.


The problem with this solution is that it will exclude a small percentage of very powerful people from their access to the world's cookie jar, therefore this sensible solution will never come to fruition unless and until people realize the true motives for our foreign policies and vote people into office who have OUR interests in mind.


ps. I've just recently discovered you and I enjoy reading your questions and answers. You're one of the smartest people here.
Yes. That's where the concept of sanctions come into play... thinking if you can hinder an economy by not doing trade with it, the result is collapse indirectly.





Iraq had been under sanctions that ironically, were working. Iraq had minimal assets and Saddam was contained.
Absolutely, and it astonishes me we aren't all over this.


We could, in very short order, have in operation enough nuclear power generators and other energy sources to make oil virtually useless.


Unlike other power generating methods, nuclear power plants do not back down at night when usage is low. This unneeded power could easily recharge our automobiles.


Before long the Mideast would be sitting upon worthless black muck, that nobody wants.
Yep, and I think one of the mighty ones that run for office, should offer us a 5,000. sure start program to convert to those cells.





I am wondering what would happen if we did something for a month..





Shut off the car.. car pool.. Lets see if it might do em in..





Everyone take one month off from traveling.. Period.. what do you say? Anyone mad enough?
People in the ME still had tons of money (OBL for one), so they could still continue to cause murder and mayhem all over the world.





The radical muslims in other parts of the world, Ethiopia, Chechyna, the Philippines, Uighurs, don't have the same money and still cause murder and mayhem.
Getting off of foreign oil would certainly solve a lot of foreign policy issues. But, it would hurt our economy also. It would put corporations, consumers, and workers in a bind.





We'd be putting a lot of manufacturing laborers out of work. We couldn't sustain the kind of production of new technologies that would be in demand. Prices would go up as demand went up. The process of switching over to alternative fuels has to be gradual, but I would certainly agree that the process needs to be faster than it is now.





Neither political party currently has an interest in switching.


(Speaking in generalities...) Democrats need the votes of the manufacturing unions. Republicans need the money from the big corporations. Democrats don't want to alienate middle class voters by hitting their wallets, and Republicans don't want to alienate their strange Middle East policy by abandoning the oil reserves in those countries.





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It certainly would lower the chances we would wind up in another war. Unfortunately we can't reverse the things Bush and Cheney have done to us.


If the war wasn't about oil, why didn't we invade Darfur?
I'm sure you're acutely aware that there has been a huge push toward a more greener society. It's not an overnight process to simply come up with an alternative fuel design...it takes time.
Watch the movie ';Why We Fight';





it will awnser all your questions about the american war industy. and military industrial complex, and why we are actually in there.





I had to watch it two times to really undersatnd it





look it up....... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Fight_(2005_film)





it really did anwser all of my questions
Sure. Though ';hydro cars'; isn't a viable technology (yet). A quibble--there are a whole slew of alternative technologies we can use.





And that is what we need to do--quit using 19th century fossil fuel technology. Start using up-to-date systems instead of protecting special interests who are out-of-date. And get off our dependancy on foreign oil.





Then tellall the right-wing nuts to go shut up and let the Middle East solve their own problems instead of butting in.
If we'd gone to war for oil,there was an easier target,alot closer.


Canada!
I'm all for that.
The war wasn't about oil, so your question is mute.

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