Wednesday, April 28, 2010

How many men & women have to die for a war that is not our problem. Oil for our men & women?

So do we have to sacrifice our own people for OIL?


I have been working in the Oil industry for over 30 years and we have plenty! It's not the security of our nation, We have the best security, or at least we use to! Over 3000 dead! How many more have to die? How many more fathers, sons, mothers %26amp; daughters have to die!! Have you lost a loved one?


How the hell do you feel?How many men %26amp; women have to die for a war that is not our problem. Oil for our men %26amp; women?
I hope we don't lose as many as we did liberating an ungrateful nation in World War 2.How many men %26amp; women have to die for a war that is not our problem. Oil for our men %26amp; women?
I feel so angry about this, i have been wanting this war to end for a long time now, recently a good friend of mine was killed by a road side bomb, he left behind his wife of a year and a unbron child...i pray everyday that other families wont have to go through what we are, thats all you can do is pray that our troops come home! this is a pointless war, it needs to just stop. we cant fix a country that has been at war with eachother for hundreds of years
If we were fighting for oil, you might have a point. While that is an easy rumor to spread, it is not backed by any facts. I believe that we had nothing to do with the guys who slammed airplanes into our buildings. They want to kill us. Should we just sit and wait for them again?





Does working in the oil industry include pumping gas?
For some perspective, look at how many Americans had to die for Vietnam (even though it had no oil).
yes we have plenty of oil,but are we drilling for it,and if so will it make a difference if we do not have the refining capacity to convert said oil to fuel,in the 70`s we had over 350 refineries,to day less than 140,and i heard a report that we were importing 13% of U.S. gas consumption already,and for the war,it was over with the defeat of the iraqi army in less then a month,but democrat interfearence prolongs the battles our army is now engaged in,with their preferance of muslim lives over american soldier lives!
War should always remain the last options when it comes to sacrifices values for human beings... Not sure the Iraki really wish to get some American values, so I am pretty sure that the soldiers over there, don't feel motivated to do a job that they feel, brings nothing better to the Iraki...


Oil is more than just money... Of course Bush did get there for this reason, as he could have wait a few more years and think about a better strategy that would have cost less lives...


But now US destiny is link to the Irak reality, the way the US will pull out of Irak will dictate the way the world will work after it... Just hope the world will still work with us than against us, but not sure the rest of the world think the same...
It was never about oil, its about changing the face of the middle east, one regime at a time, to ensure a more peaceful future, and spread democracy. You are near sighted to think this is only about oil





-loose change is a steaming pile of rosie o'donnel
I am so glad you took a stand on this. This is totally about oil and Bush wants to control it. Why do these families have to suffer? Draft the Bush twins and maybe we will drop this stupid war of a the Bush family. I know 2 soldiers who dies in Irag and many more that are there. They all say we shouldn't be there. It is so easy for the news to control who and what they ask about how the Iraqies feel about us.
Fact is to many to get one man,he kept the people in line and the oil flowing,it will go back that way only this time no oil.The real enemy is Saudi Arabia they give the money and teach the hate ,but that's Bush friend.Are we stupid?
Remember Vietnam... quite a few, perhaps half of the Vietnam number but around there.





Remember there was no evidence on Mr. Hussien's links to Al-Qaeyda, and Mr. Bush just wanted a war anyway, according to Tenet, then head of CIA. In fact, I suggest you read his book that just came out on Iraq war. Saddam after sanctions posed zero threat to the US. He HATED Al-Qaeyda. Infact, America could have lifted sanctions in exchange for him hunting down and killing al-qaeyda. In fact people who went to the mosque too often were questioned and imprisoned due to his regime.





I think anybody who links the two just because they were damned sandniggers is simply being racist and not paying attention to facts.





They let everything be looted but the ministry of oil. Haliburton and other oil related businesses took over. Read the Sack of Washington, Vanity Fair, to get the details, an economist's tale for history. Then Project for new american century, but like any analyst will tell you, its a war for oil and stragetic power.





Iraq was yet another colonial war, and the old ';arab face'; british proped up regime was eliminated in falluja and nassariyah and the same battles where fought in the same cities in the 1920s. Before it was a king and now its a parliament, but its an arab face.





So how many poor boys shall die for some rich white guy's colonialist war in foreign soil? Many.





How many 100,000s of Iraqis have died in this colonial war? Many.





As Vera Britten stated, ';War is when the old men send the young men to die.'; Its not like bush fought in the war in Vietnam nor are his daughters in Iraq. Expect what, at least 10,000 more.





I lived through a shock an awe campaign in another middle eastern country. It was a civil war, but I sure hated the guts of the guy sending the missiles into my neighbor hood and turning it into smitherenes, blocks of stone houses disappearing into thin air... btw 9-11 happened after the beginning of the intifadha, when everybody felt angry and impotent... its what war is like. When it happened, I thought, wow, now america is going to be a normal country, a part of the world, and americans are final human, and grieve over their loved ones like the rest of us grieve. Why is it just people in third world countries that experiance violence? Now the rich finally know what its like to live in the ghetto. As it turns out, no, they didn't want to know and blamed the whole thing on the poor that they made poor in the first place. Unemployed Saudis who are unemployed because the American government keeps their ineffeciant, corrupt, abusive government in power became suicide pilots.





If you want to know why 9-11 happened, read Ruben Dario's To Roosevelt, written in 1903, where he predicts the whole thing. Its a story of the french revolution, the world's first terrorists and Mary Antoinette. It sucks.





So you have poor mexican, black and white boys who want a passport or college education dying for Bushy Antoinette's Haliburton. Remember Vietnam + add corruption.
Okay you seem to want a number, so here it is, 10 thousand. Ten thousand military personelle have to die in combat operations to show the United States committment to this or any war, justified or not. BTW, Im interested in getting a job on a rig, could you email me so we could chat a little on that?
How many have to die? As many as it takes for the ';American People'; to say 'enough is enough', as they did for Vietnam.





';Oil for our men %26amp; women?'; Only the ';American Peoples''; conscience can determine how many dead Americans their cars do to the gallon...
have you ever watched loose change 9/11 they are making money off the lives of our soliders someones brother (mine was there twice) sister mother father. god bless our troops
Judging by the obvious uninformed drivel you've displayed, I'm guessing that you've never actually been to Iraq yourself; if you had, you'd know that oil's got nothing to do with it. Not only that--if you actually WERE in the oil industry for as long as you claim, you'd know where most of our oil comes from; little, if any, comes from that part of the world, and certainly not from Iraq. If you're so concerned over the loss of 3,000 people, why aren't you directing your ire at the ones who took the first 3,000 lives in 2001 and started this whole thing? Put the blame where it belongs.
It is not about oil. We have been there for 4 years, so where is this surplus of oil we should have recieved?





And you know, it really IS our problem and thank God that it didn't turn out like it could have. I remember reading about Nevil Chamberlin meeting with Adolph Hitler and returning to England putting their minds to ease saying ';there is no threat';. Six years later... 12 million dead because no one took action.





We took action and DID find WMD's that remember were in possession of a man who used them on even his own people. Now, we are fighting terrorists who even before Iraq, swore to kill Americans and all other infidels. At least we are fighting them over there and not here like they would like.





Start looking toward reality, Read history, Love this country, and ALWAYS be suspicious of those who don't.
Oh, it's NOT our problem huh ?


Wish we could get a quick replacement for oil and get you working in some other industry ... fast food perhaps.
This war is not Vietnam.





A war was started. How it began is not important. Why it began is. Everyone knows the answer to this simple question. But no one wants to admit the truth. As the people in this nation. The majority rules. The minority may complain and argue about the decision made. But we must all accept the decision weather we like it or not.


After the Great Tragedy of 9-11. The majority of the people were consumed by a primal instinct. All logic and reason over powered by revenge. Along with miss information the war in Iraq had begun. Many soldiers died in this war. But finally the war was won. But in wining the war. We opened the door to a Greater Evil. Now the brave and weary soldiers must stay and defend the people of the land they invaded. They must teach the people how to defend themselves against this evil. But this task is not an easy one. Some rebel and refuse to learn from these soldiers, because they invaded their land without reason. Others welcome any and all help they can provide. And there are those who are part of this evil. They work with and help the soldiers. But once confidence is gain. All information they learned is used to destroy our soldiers.


The enemy is no longer in plain sight, like the first war. The enemy is now everywhere and cannot be seen. Now the solders must still trust the people of the land. But must also keep a careful eye on everyone. If they do not trust them they will lose the few people of the land that are helping and who want the help. Frustrated and enervated the solders and the people press on.


The time has passed. And the majority of the people’s revenge has been replaced by regret. Most of the Minority have restarted their arguments and complains to boast to the majority “Who was right and who was wrong”. Now the majority feeling the regret of sending the soldiers to a war that shouldn’t have happened, along with a large part of the minority. Want to bring the solders back home. Not realizing that the evil that was released by the war, would consume the land. And grow to be a greater threat to this nation and to the world.





The final question is no longer why. But how will this conflict end. Will we vanquish this evil that was unleashed upon the land. Or retreat and let the evil consume the land. I can only hope that the right answer prevails, over the answer given out of regret and remorse. If this Evil grows. We people now may see very little of it. But what burden will our children inherit?

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